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brigsssss's review against another edition
challenging
mysterious
slow-paced
3.75
I bought a second hand copy of this that had clearly been owned by someone who’d studied it at uni… which was convenient because in the part about the Count they wrote “personification of po-mo”. And i’m glad they did because that made me realise that this book is basically Post-structuralism: the novel, which helped me to make a lot more sense of it. Having said that, i’m not convinced Post-structuralism: the novel is necessarily a good concept for a novel… I think i’d probably get into this if i studied it at uni, but as a bedtime read it’s maybe less the vibe.
porky's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
hiccyup's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
4.0
emi_sinclair's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.0
saphirice's review against another edition
3.0
There’s a lot to say about this book, and I certainly think it’s one of those where each person who reads it will take something different out of it. I understand both the 1-star and 5-star reviews.
From what I’ve read on here, most of the poorest reviews come from a place of abject disgust. To be honest, there were a lot of times I also wanted to put it down out of abject horror (not the fun kind!). There is so. Much. Rape (occasionally involving children). And racism! The rape scenes, while abhorrent, I can at least seek out some sort of larger intent out of, as while this is the first Carter book I’ve read I understand her to be a feminist author and the rape falls in line with other themes of the novel. But the racism is so atrocious and center-stage and deeply-entangled in the writing—even for the 70s—that I struggle to find greater meaning to most of it and am pretty sure Carter is just racist.
On a more technical level, I had issues with the general writing and structure. The style is largely beautiful but at times it’s so excessively wordy it’s a drag to read. You know how it’s bad writing advice to look up a synonym for a word and just choose the biggest, most obscure one because you think it makes you sound smart? That’s the vibe I get sometimes from the writing. As for structure, the first couple chapters and the last one are fine, but the chapters in-between read as mostly anthological rather than plot-driven. They follow the same formula to where they become predictable and have only a thin through-line. This bogged down the reading experience for me.
Now, onto what I do like about the novel, and why I gave it 3 rather than 2 stars. It is deeply creative and imaginative. It astounds me often and inspires my own writing. The magic system (if you could call it that) is impressively unique and rides the boundary between sensible and utter nonsense, in a way that’s fun rather than irritating. There are several paragraphs where the physics of the world are being described that I had to re-read multiple times, as at first skim they seem unintelligible, but then ultimately do make just enough sense.
Bouncing off of that, it’s also a very intellectually stimulating novel. There’s a lot of themes at play here and I think I’d have to do more research into Carter and the surrounding time this was written in to really understand all of them. We are told the sex in this book is passionate and represents perfect desire but it’s often only ever described in very empty, shallow ways, or is rape outright; I could write an entire essay connecting this to the way sex is shown to us in the media. Media itself is another theme as I believe it’s represented in the illusions and mirages altering this world. Knowing Carter is a feminist author, the way every single female character that I can remember is victimized in some way is something worth discussing. The main character is an abhorrent person and I saw a lot of satire regarding male ego and sexuality in him.
Overall, while I wouldn’t say the book is always enjoyable between the insufferable main character, rape, and racism, it’s still a creative marvel and offers a lot to dissect.
From what I’ve read on here, most of the poorest reviews come from a place of abject disgust. To be honest, there were a lot of times I also wanted to put it down out of abject horror (not the fun kind!). There is so. Much. Rape (occasionally involving children). And racism! The rape scenes, while abhorrent, I can at least seek out some sort of larger intent out of, as while this is the first Carter book I’ve read I understand her to be a feminist author and the rape falls in line with other themes of the novel. But the racism is so atrocious and center-stage and deeply-entangled in the writing—even for the 70s—that I struggle to find greater meaning to most of it and am pretty sure Carter is just racist.
On a more technical level, I had issues with the general writing and structure. The style is largely beautiful but at times it’s so excessively wordy it’s a drag to read. You know how it’s bad writing advice to look up a synonym for a word and just choose the biggest, most obscure one because you think it makes you sound smart? That’s the vibe I get sometimes from the writing. As for structure, the first couple chapters and the last one are fine, but the chapters in-between read as mostly anthological rather than plot-driven. They follow the same formula to where they become predictable and have only a thin through-line. This bogged down the reading experience for me.
Now, onto what I do like about the novel, and why I gave it 3 rather than 2 stars. It is deeply creative and imaginative. It astounds me often and inspires my own writing. The magic system (if you could call it that) is impressively unique and rides the boundary between sensible and utter nonsense, in a way that’s fun rather than irritating. There are several paragraphs where the physics of the world are being described that I had to re-read multiple times, as at first skim they seem unintelligible, but then ultimately do make just enough sense.
Bouncing off of that, it’s also a very intellectually stimulating novel. There’s a lot of themes at play here and I think I’d have to do more research into Carter and the surrounding time this was written in to really understand all of them. We are told the sex in this book is passionate and represents perfect desire but it’s often only ever described in very empty, shallow ways, or is rape outright; I could write an entire essay connecting this to the way sex is shown to us in the media. Media itself is another theme as I believe it’s represented in the illusions and mirages altering this world. Knowing Carter is a feminist author, the way every single female character that I can remember is victimized in some way is something worth discussing. The main character is an abhorrent person and I saw a lot of satire regarding male ego and sexuality in him.
Overall, while I wouldn’t say the book is always enjoyable between the insufferable main character, rape, and racism, it’s still a creative marvel and offers a lot to dissect.
dylanberman's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Carters prose conjures crystal clear imagery in the absurd, terrible, fairytale world of this post modern gullivers travels. An impactful and tragic story of a man stumbling into and ultimately being burned by a variety of different groups and their meta narratives about life. A sadistic, demonic count, a traveling circus, a boat dwelling native tribe, zealous centaurs, a BDSM whorehouse, and an African despot, the story follows desiderio as he joins, understands, appreciates, and ultimately rejects and is hurt by the contradictory ‘absolute truths’ presented to him by the groups he falls in and out with. A beautifully disturbing story about the search for meeting the dangers of adherence to grand narratives.
missbookiverse's review against another edition
3.0
Still trying to digest this one by reading up on some secondary literature. I liked how whimsical and fantastical it was but there were also several aspects that seem offensive, overly brutal, possibly sexist and racist. The academic angle makes me reconsider these aspects as intentional, satirical and even subliminally feminist (something I’ve come to expect of Carter’s work). I like to be challenged by my books every now and then but I also wish this novel had focused less on the uncomfortable sexual encounters (and rape) and more on its scientific dissection of magic and subversion of common fairy tale tropes.
gingerliss's review against another edition
3.0
I'm not sure whether to give this two or three stars. I enjoyed the first part of the novel. It was really interesting and original. The story pulled me in and I thought it was really captivating. I especially liked the part with the river people. From when Desiderio meets the Count though I just stopped enjoying it though and it just felt like I had to plough my way through. I really can't decide how I feel about this novel. A lot of the novel was quite shocking, especially some of what happened with a nine your old child with the river people, although I believe that was Carter's point. By the end of the novel though I felt like that was pretty much all it was shock effect and shock effect after shock effect. After all of it I feel the book was too vulgar, I'm certainly not a prude, but at a certain point it felt like the story had moved to the background and it was just one after the other rape of some kind or other. I'm going to leave it at three stars as the first half of the book was worth it.
melissa's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
The last 50 odd pages made the book for me. The full realisation of Desiderio's namesake desire was really powerfully shown. I enjoyed how desire was explored overall, and the more I think about the book through the lens of desire, the more I can make 'sense' of it.
I appreciated the lurid craziness of this book and thought the aesthetics were fantastic. But I was sometimes lost from the book, it was just too much. I don't think I understood the world of the book enough to feel connected to the stories and especially the theory.
I appreciated the lurid craziness of this book and thought the aesthetics were fantastic. But I was sometimes lost from the book, it was just too much. I don't think I understood the world of the book enough to feel connected to the stories and especially the theory.
Graphic: Pedophilia, Rape, and War