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katie0528's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
Graphic: Death, Genocide, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Racism, Sexual assault, Torture, Forced institutionalization, Xenophobia, Murder, Lesbophobia, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Body horror, Confinement, Drug use, Gun violence, Violence, Police brutality, Death of parent, and Fire/Fire injury
Minor: War
multimindz's review against another edition
- Diverse cast of characters? No
3.75
I liked the movie waaaaaaay more than the book. The movie storyline was more succinct whereas in the book, I sometimes had problems following the different storylines. The book made sense but it felt more like White Guy Meandering & Mulling About Society whereas the movie got straight to the point.
What knocked my score to the 3's (I wanted to give it a 5 because it is V for Vendetta alone but that's not fair) is the use of Black People As Society's Canaries trope, where there are no active Black characters talking, living, etc in the forefront. Nope, we're in the background being .... murdered and treated poorly and all the White folks who star in the work do is go "Wow, look at how poorly the Black people are being treated, they're always the first to go." They do nothing but wait for all or most of the Black folks to be eradicated before doing anything, while all the while going "This world is sick, look at how they treat the Black people [and how I do nothing because why have genuine human compassion for Black people, who are also human (News Flash, it's true), until they die. Which works best for me because at least they're gone, I just have to act sad about it]." There are smarter & more humane ways to say or depict the issues of totalitarianism, facism and wide-spread prejudice. The movie handled it better, at least removed the "Black People as Society's Canary" trope.
The sexism is wowser in the book. You have the daft-but-cute 16 yr old Evey Hammond (aged up in the movie and good thing, that!) who seemed to be an easily led, doe-eyed lamb that constantly trailed out things that made V look impressive, how she would go "oh, I'm so weak and frail but you're so big and strong" (I'm paraphrasing here). It clearly didn't look like some super meta-cognitive move to quip on society's sexism by Alan Moore, it just looked like standard White Straight Cis Man Makes Comic Books And Includes Gender Beside "Man" behavior. He triiiiiiiiied? đ¤ˇđżââď¸ And flopped. Even had a Lady Macbeth type character that I almost expected to say "Out, out, damned spot" at one point." I get the whole "messed up ppl like power" thing but that all could have been told way better, when it came to the women. It instead read more like "What I, a straight man, believe a woman gunning for power would act like." The movie was a bit better, had it's drawbacks (thanks to the source material, they can only do so much) but the book was more heavy handed & leaded with the built-in sexism.
It's like Alan Moore was trying to say very poignant things about society but because it's clear via his work he doesn't really interact much (if at all) with whole slices of society (*koff*AnyoneNotWhite,NotMan,NotStraightAndEspeciallyNoCombos/Intersections*wheeeeeeeeze**koff*) it comes off as very "White Man Muses About Society, Ignores His Own Glaring Blindspots", which, bro, is already so many books, dear gods. We already have 1984, Brave New World, the list goes on and on and on and! At least the movie was good. I think if Alan Moore widened up his friend circle (at least to the point a group picture wouldn't look like something the National Front would hardly blink at) before and during the time he created this graphic novel, it would have been a super knock-out, probably.
Perhaps I'm also just tired of "White Guy Muses About Society, Ignores Own Blindspots" works. Been hearing and reading them since I was a kid (usually not by choice, at least this time was), it's lame, myopic af and they miss a lot.
Those two things I mentioned mostly knocked the score to 3.75. I recommend the movie over the graphic novel. At least the movie is thrilling
Graphic: Confinement, Death, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Mental illness, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Toxic relationship, Forced institutionalization, Xenophobia, Police brutality, Medical content, Kidnapping, Medical trauma, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, Toxic friendship, Abandonment, Classism, Deportation, and Pandemic/Epidemic
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Alcoholism, Cursing, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Infidelity, Racial slurs, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Torture, Violence, Antisemitism, Grief, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Lesbophobia, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Rape
xenia_li's review against another edition
5.0
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Genocide, Hate crime, Homophobia, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Racism, Torture, Violence, Police brutality, and Lesbophobia
Moderate: Child abuse, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Infidelity, Mental illness, Pedophilia, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Xenophobia, Murder, Sexual harassment, and War
Minor: Drug abuse, Incest, Violence, Antisemitism, Grief, Religious bigotry, and Medical trauma
booksdogsandcoffee's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
As humans we continue to make the same mistakes over and over again and I think that is why V for Vendetta remains so timeless and relatable even 40 years after publication.
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Genocide
Racism
Homophobia
Eugenics
Hate crime
Sexism
Rape
Death
Murder
Torture
Pedophilia
Antisemitism
Xenophobia
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Death, Genocide, Hate crime, Homophobia, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Torture, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Antisemitism, Religious bigotry, Alcohol, and War
samdalefox's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.25
Pros
- The inclusion of Valerie is incredibly important. To centre the story of a persecuted lesbian woman of integrity as the manifesto for resilience, resistance, hope, and love is just perfect.â...it was my integrity that was important. Is that so selfish? It sells for so little, but itâs all we have in this place. It is the very last inch of us, but in that inch we are free....It is strange that my life should end in such a terrible place, but for three years I had roses and apologized to nobody. I shall die here, every inch of me shall perishâexcept oneâ (156, 160).
- The inclusion of arts as well as the sciences and philosophy. The symbolism of the roses is particuarly beautiful for socialists and communists, referencing Rose Schneiderman's "bread for all, and roses too".
- The pacing and aesthetic was bang on for a dystopian vision. Heavy shade, stylised thought 'bubbles', interesting strip arrangement.
- Accurate portrayal of various supporting systems of oppression propping up fascism; racism, homophobia, and notably patriarchy. At first I wanted to put the appallingly frequent slut shaming, misogyny, and sexism into the cons bucket as I didn't enjoy it, but tbh it's a hallmark of fascism so is probably best accepted charitably as accurate and not unecessarily used.
Cons
- Dare I say, too much focus on the fascist government and not enough on the oppressed people? The novel does a good job at exploring the nuances of consciousness in the people in power; how they are negatively affected by fascism too. But in a graphic novel that claims to want to upset that very balance of power, it would have been nice to have the same nuance and diversity explored within people not in power (excluding V and Evey).
- The
capture and torture of Evey was VERY problematic. It was unjustified as a plotline and completely undermines the anarchism point the novel was trying to make in my opinion. I think Evey's liberation could and should have been achieved in a different way, and the story of Valerie could have been included via a different mechanism. - I would love a follow up about the BUILDING PHASE. Most dystopian fiction focuses on the destruction phase of anarchy. The building phase in V for Vendetta was at least mentioned, but was never focussed upon. The building phase is not as gritty, glorified, or glamorised, but it is still tough and a worthwhile story to tell. I think V for Vendetta missed a trick by not creating a short sequal or appendix covering the hardships of healing and creating.
Favorite Quotes:
âEverybody is special. Everybody. Everybody is a hero, a lover, a fool, a villain. Everybody. Everybody has their story to tell.â
âKnowledge, like air, is vital to life. Like air, no one should be denied it.â
Moderate: Misogyny, Torture, and Violence
Minor: Adult/minor relationship, Confinement, Death, Homophobia, Racism, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Forced institutionalization, Death of parent, and Lesbophobia
unavezmas's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
4.25
The thing gives me Batman vibes. Oh wait Alan Moore wrote couple of Batman comics. The social commentary is still relevant though. I didn't even tried to understand V's mind honestly. That's why I didn't get wtf was the ending. The novel is more confucing in terms of characters but I guess we weren't supposed to differ them. I mean there are like 5 Important Midle Aged White Men there...
Overall I liked it. V was smart and ruthless. Ivi well faithfull companion. There were also some touching side stories.
Graphic: Misogyny, Torture, and Xenophobia
dudebell's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.5
The world of V for Vendetta is one in which fascists in Britain have successfully eradicated all visible âminoritiesâ from their country, leaving behind only those less visible - those who are queer. Characters are forced to make the decision: to be visible, or to move invisibly. For Valerie, this is her âone inchâ that she will not give up. For Ruth, this is price she is willing to pay for her âfreedomâ â a freedom that is simply a different sort of prison. Itâs interesting to me that, in the afterword of the edition I read, Moore describes an earlier version of V as âtranssexualâ â and itâs true. Firstly in the sense that V is both everything and nothing, he is a man and a woman and both and neither, he is an idea, and anyone can be an idea. He represents anarchy and freedom and the queerness we can associate with that, and we see this as
The world of V is also one in which love has been replaced with power, and for me this is the strongest element of the novel. All romance is a power play. Sexual intimacy is girls on a stage, is rape. Susan (and thereâs something to be said about genderplay with that name as well) is ruling a world so devoid of love that he falls for a computer (here again â a non-sexed âentityâ who is addressed as a woman and has the voice of a man). Thereâs an incredible scene where, almost in a trance, Susan whispers âI love youâ to Fate, while Creedy trembles in the background, unsure if heâs the object of this affection. Lost love is depicted as queer joy, as a celebration of Blackness. And this is something that has been sacrificed for uniformity and control.
There are some issues I take with the comic. I think the filmâs decision to make Gordon a queer man was the right one, as his role in the book is a little cloudy. I also wish the two leads were less opaque. While I understand this decision to make V more myth than man, I wish there had been moments to humanise him and make him feel more real.
Overall, a classic comic, one of the greats. Definitely an important read for anyone interested in the medium.
Graphic: Confinement, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Gun violence, Homophobia, Infidelity, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Xenophobia, Blood, Police brutality, Medical content, Grief, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Lesbophobia, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, Sexual harassment, War, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Antisemitism, and Alcohol
fallandfox's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Moderate: Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Homophobia, Infidelity, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Police brutality, Kidnapping, Death of parent, Lesbophobia, and War
scripturient's review against another edition
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
Graphic: Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Gore, Physical abuse, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Medical content, and Medical trauma
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Body horror, Child abuse, Drug use, Gun violence, Homophobia, Incest, Infidelity, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Toxic relationship, Xenophobia, Blood, and Kidnapping
minapaige's review against another edition
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Confinement and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Mental illness, Violence, and Police brutality
Minor: Homophobia, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Racism, Sexism, Xenophobia, and Antisemitism
One of the main characters,